Sun-Managers Summary of Charter and Rules

Last updated:  25 January 1992

This message is a summary of the sun-managers charter and rules.
Failure to adhere to these guidelines may result in severe
chastisement by the list maintainer and other list participants.

Changes from previous versions of this message are indicated with
change bars to the right of the message.

1:  This list is NOT moderated!  Every message that is sent to the list
    will be passed on to every member of the list (with a few small
    exceptions).

2:  Requests to have addresses added or removed from the list should NOT
    be sent to the entire list.  Instead, they should be mailed to:
    sun-managers-request@eecs.nwu.edu

3:  This list is intended to be a quick-turnaround trouble shooting aid
    for those who administer and manage Sun systems.  Its primary purpose
    is to provide the Sun manager with a quick source of information for
    system management problems that are of a time-critical nature.

4:  Answers to questions are to be mailed back to the questioner and are
    NOT to be sent to the entire list.  The person who originally asked
    the question has the responsibility of summarizing the answers and
    sending the entire summary back to the list.  When a summary is sent
    back to the list, it should contain the word "SUMMARY" as the first
    word of the "Subject" line.

5:  Discussions on ANY topic are not allowed and will not be tolerated.
    If you want to discuss something, take it to the newsgroup
    comp.sys.sun.admin or alt.sys.sun (see below).

6:  If it is not specifically related to Sun system management, then it
    does NOT belong on this list.  Requests for vendor recommendations
    are tolerated, provided that the hardware in question is something that
    system managers normally purchase.

7:  Requests for software (free or otherwise) should be limited to
    software that is directly related to Sun SYSTEM MANAGEMENT ONLY.

8:  Read the appropriate manuals BEFORE posting, including the "Read
    This First" documents.  Often times the manuals contain answers for
    common problems.

9:  When including a traceback from a system panic, make sure that it is
    a SYMBOLIC traceback.  Numeric tracebacks (the ones included as part
    of the panic message) are totally useless.  Read chapter 22 of the
    SunOS 4.1 system administration manual to learn how to produce a
    symbolic traceback.

10: PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE...Think before you send a message!  Ask yourself
    "is this really appropriate?"  There are enough other newsgroups
    and mailing lists around to cover the marginal topics.  Perhaps there
    is another forum that is more appropriate.  Check the list of Sun
    specific newsgroups included in the next section.  Perhaps your
    message would be more appropriate there.

If after reading all the guidelines you decide that you still want to
send your message to the entire sun-managers readership, then mail it
to the address "sun-managers@eecs.nwu.edu".

Other forums that relate to Suns (please mail me corrections and
additions to this list):

Newsgroups (accessible via "rn", "readnews", "nn", etc.):

There is now an entire heirarchy devoted to Sun equipment:

	comp.sys.sun.admin	Sun system administration
	comp.sys.sun.announce	Announcements pertaining to Sun equipment
	comp.sys.sun.apps	Applications that run on Suns
	comp.sys.sun.hardware	Sun hardware (and clones too, I think)
	comp.sys.sun.misc	Miscellaneous
	comp.sys.sun.wanted	Sun stuff to buy or sell

Other newsgroups that may also be of interest:

	alt.sys.sun		may not be available everywhere
	comp.org.sug		pertaining to the Sun User Group           |
	comp.sys.sun		newsgroup equivalent of sun-spots
	comp.sources.sun	Sun-specific sources (not very active)

Mailing lists:

    Sun-Nets:   networking sun workstations
	sun-nets-request@uunet.uu.net		add requests
	sun-nets@uunet.uu.net			submissions

    Sun-386i:   discussion about the Sun 386i product
	sun-386i-request@ssg.com                add requests
	sun-386i@ssg.com                        submissions

    Suns-at-home:   discussion about maintaining Sun2/3/4/4c
                    systems at home
	suns-at-home-request@orchestra.ecn.purdue.edu	add requests
	suns-at-home@orchestra.ecn.purdue.edu		submissions

    Auspex:  managers of Auspex NFS file servers
	auspex-request@princeton.edu			add requests
	auspex@princeton.edu				submissions

    Epoch:  managers of Epoch NFS file servers
	EPoch Users Forum  (EPUF)
	epuf-request@mcs.anl.gov			add requests
	epuf@mcs.anl.gov				submissions

    Lug-Nuts:  Sun Local User Group information
	lug-nuts-request@sug.org			add requests
	lug-nuts@sug.org				submissions

NOTE:  if you wish to be added to one of the above mailing lists,
send mail to the REQUEST address!  Do not send add requests to the
main address!