Sun-Managers Summary of Charter and Rules Last updated: 25 January 1992 This message is a summary of the sun-managers charter and rules. Failure to adhere to these guidelines may result in severe chastisement by the list maintainer and other list participants. Changes from previous versions of this message are indicated with change bars to the right of the message. 1: This list is NOT moderated! Every message that is sent to the list will be passed on to every member of the list (with a few small exceptions). 2: Requests to have addresses added or removed from the list should NOT be sent to the entire list. Instead, they should be mailed to: sun-managers-request@eecs.nwu.edu 3: This list is intended to be a quick-turnaround trouble shooting aid for those who administer and manage Sun systems. Its primary purpose is to provide the Sun manager with a quick source of information for system management problems that are of a time-critical nature. 4: Answers to questions are to be mailed back to the questioner and are NOT to be sent to the entire list. The person who originally asked the question has the responsibility of summarizing the answers and sending the entire summary back to the list. When a summary is sent back to the list, it should contain the word "SUMMARY" as the first word of the "Subject" line. 5: Discussions on ANY topic are not allowed and will not be tolerated. If you want to discuss something, take it to the newsgroup comp.sys.sun.admin or alt.sys.sun (see below). 6: If it is not specifically related to Sun system management, then it does NOT belong on this list. Requests for vendor recommendations are tolerated, provided that the hardware in question is something that system managers normally purchase. 7: Requests for software (free or otherwise) should be limited to software that is directly related to Sun SYSTEM MANAGEMENT ONLY. 8: Read the appropriate manuals BEFORE posting, including the "Read This First" documents. Often times the manuals contain answers for common problems. 9: When including a traceback from a system panic, make sure that it is a SYMBOLIC traceback. Numeric tracebacks (the ones included as part of the panic message) are totally useless. Read chapter 22 of the SunOS 4.1 system administration manual to learn how to produce a symbolic traceback. 10: PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE...Think before you send a message! Ask yourself "is this really appropriate?" There are enough other newsgroups and mailing lists around to cover the marginal topics. Perhaps there is another forum that is more appropriate. Check the list of Sun specific newsgroups included in the next section. Perhaps your message would be more appropriate there. If after reading all the guidelines you decide that you still want to send your message to the entire sun-managers readership, then mail it to the address "sun-managers@eecs.nwu.edu". Other forums that relate to Suns (please mail me corrections and additions to this list): Newsgroups (accessible via "rn", "readnews", "nn", etc.): There is now an entire heirarchy devoted to Sun equipment: comp.sys.sun.admin Sun system administration comp.sys.sun.announce Announcements pertaining to Sun equipment comp.sys.sun.apps Applications that run on Suns comp.sys.sun.hardware Sun hardware (and clones too, I think) comp.sys.sun.misc Miscellaneous comp.sys.sun.wanted Sun stuff to buy or sell Other newsgroups that may also be of interest: alt.sys.sun may not be available everywhere comp.org.sug pertaining to the Sun User Group | comp.sys.sun newsgroup equivalent of sun-spots comp.sources.sun Sun-specific sources (not very active) Mailing lists: Sun-Nets: networking sun workstations sun-nets-request@uunet.uu.net add requests sun-nets@uunet.uu.net submissions Sun-386i: discussion about the Sun 386i product sun-386i-request@ssg.com add requests sun-386i@ssg.com submissions Suns-at-home: discussion about maintaining Sun2/3/4/4c systems at home suns-at-home-request@orchestra.ecn.purdue.edu add requests suns-at-home@orchestra.ecn.purdue.edu submissions Auspex: managers of Auspex NFS file servers auspex-request@princeton.edu add requests auspex@princeton.edu submissions Epoch: managers of Epoch NFS file servers EPoch Users Forum (EPUF) epuf-request@mcs.anl.gov add requests epuf@mcs.anl.gov submissions Lug-Nuts: Sun Local User Group information lug-nuts-request@sug.org add requests lug-nuts@sug.org submissions NOTE: if you wish to be added to one of the above mailing lists, send mail to the REQUEST address! Do not send add requests to the main address!